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Post by Martin on Mar 20, 2012 19:35:10 GMT -4
I've posted on here before that I really like the simplicity and size of the following cabin design. I'd like to build it or something similar sometime in the not too distant future. I'd like to have the porch front and back, with a greenhouse/sunroom of the southern end, and maybe if it's built a bit bigger a Rumford fireplace on the other end, not so much for a serious source of heat, but for a rotisserie and Tuscan type grill for cooking and the like. Trouble is, I can't make up my mind whether to build a basement underneath or just go with a well built slab. A basement would add significantly to the cost and provide extra storage space and such. Any ideas? The cabin is 12X24   ~Martin |
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Post by Martin on Mar 20, 2012 19:47:08 GMT -4
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Post by nhlivefreeordie on Mar 20, 2012 22:13:01 GMT -4
I would not be without a basement if I could at all do it. Aside from storage possibilities, your home will be warmer.
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Post by azlonerider on Mar 21, 2012 1:04:43 GMT -4
I would go with a basement as well for the root cellar properties that it provides... with a house that small I would either go for ladder access or it would be accessed from outside...
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Post by Martin on Mar 21, 2012 3:23:53 GMT -4
A basement seems to be the consensus.
My dad insists that I should have a basement.
I'm going to tell him that if he insists on a basement, I insist on him helping me build the thing!!! LOL
It may delay things an extra year, but that's probably the way to go.
I think that it'll ultimately be an extension of the kitchen where I can have my canning, buthering, sausage making and some type of a climatically controlled room for dry cured hams, bacon, sausages, etc.
Current plan is to have a separate root cellar.
Next question is what type of basement.
Block?
Poured?
Premade and placed by a crane? They have become very popular around here, but not dad is not a big fan of the idea.
~Martin
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Post by leatherneckpa on Mar 21, 2012 7:44:33 GMT -4
I would also elect for a full basement, for storage and to keep the house warmer. If you've got the hill face to work with, how about building the root cellar back into the hill, off the kitchen end?
As for the basement construction, I've been considering block because it's a D-I-Y material. I laid a field stone foundation once that measured 18" wide, 8' tall, and was a total of 84' long. I could handle a block wall. And I'd incorporate something I learned from the penitentiary. The Feds require that all exterior walls, and all walls in a segregation unit, are built with what they call "Class A" construction.
That requires rebar every other horizontal run and vertical rebar a corresponding number of vertical cells, creating a grid. Then the cells are all backfilled with poured concrete. Since I'm not trying to keep anyone in I believe that horizontal rebar at 1', 4', and 7' heights and every 4' vertically should be sufficient. I'm not sure about the backfilling of the cells though. I wonder if a mix wet enough to pour down to fill them wouldn't be too wet to cure properly? Any cement workers in the background?
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Post by nhlivefreeordie on Mar 21, 2012 8:26:31 GMT -4
I would use either block or poured.
Mike, the cement will cure if you build in stages and let each stage cure before continuing. I built a 4' X 4' X 40' block bait tank that way in the basement of one of my stores.
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Post by leatherneckpa on Mar 21, 2012 13:08:11 GMT -4
Wayne, what do we consider a stage" and how long does it need to cure? 2 courses? Maybe 3 courses?
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Post by nhlivefreeordie on Mar 21, 2012 17:10:41 GMT -4
My tank was 4' deep, so I split it into two sessions, laid the first two courses, pounded in the rebar after drilling through the concrete floor, poured cement into the voids in the blocks, a soupy mix so it would flow throughout, I waited a week then finished the second course and waited a week again before surfacing and then painting with pool paint.
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Post by leatherneckpa on Mar 22, 2012 14:07:21 GMT -4
Martin, are you design/construction capable? I was at Lowes this morning getting fence posts and found a $20 book marked down to $5 because the paper cover had gotten wet and crinkled. It was titled Compact Cabins: Simple Living in 1,000 Sq Ft or Less. For someone who can design their own construction plans this is a neat collection of 62 small cabins. They range in size from just over 150 sq ft to just under 1,000 sq ft. ETA: I didn't need it, but for $5 I had to add it to the library. |
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Post by Martin on Mar 23, 2012 0:28:21 GMT -4
Martin, are you design/construction capable? I was at Lowes this morning getting fence posts and found a $20 book marked down to $5 because the paper cover had gotten wet and crinkled. It was titled Compact Cabins: Simple Living in 1,000 Sq Ft or Less. For someone who can design their own construction plans this is a neat collection of 62 small cabins. They range in size from just over 150 sq ft to just under 1,000 sq ft. ETA: I didn't need it, but for $5 I had to add it to the library. Thanks! I'll look into it. I'm not the best at designing and building stuff, but I can do an okay job if I take my time. I'm trying to learn Sketchup well enough to do some real drawings. I may change the plan a bit so that I can get back up there sooner. I'm thinking about building a tiny cabin for now, that could be used as a guest cabin later or converted into something different. Then take my time building the real cabin, I think it would make more sense to be a le to work on it while living up there, rather than traveling back and forth from here all the time. My dad is very good at building stuff, here are some pics of the last house he built. I wish I still had a better pic of it when it was finished.      ~Martin |
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Post by leatherneckpa on Mar 23, 2012 7:31:40 GMT -4
Wow. I've never seen a dome with the sides angled out like that.
Cindy and I are planning on building a 16'x24' "guest cabin" on our land, mainly because we can build a weather tight shell that size in a long weekend. Then subsequent visits and vacations can be used to build the "big" house in stages. Of course, when I say big house I'm still talking only 1800 sq ft, including the loft.
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Post by Lop on May 16, 2017 6:19:03 GMT -4
I like your roof. I build like this but it wasn't waterroofed and after heavy rain it ruined...
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Post by NaNaLa on May 16, 2017 8:16:48 GMT -4
It happened because you didn't use awesome Liquid Rubber waterproofing sealant that won't let water get under your roof and inside your house. And it's weird that you didn't think about such thing as waterproofing your rood. How could you forget that? |
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